User Content Curation Tools - A Discussion

For those unaware, there has been a great deal of discussions around some new policy changes over in the Content, Clarity, and Consent thread recently.

The purpose of this thread is to collect the suggestions of systemic tools to help empower users to curate their experiences, as well as discuss and brainstorm solutions to issues surrounding them. It’s also to help with the collection of tools that Fox was mentioning early on in the thread.

Tools are a means by which users are given agency and power, and the tools to curate your experience within a place like Wolfery are exceedingly important!

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PLEASE NOTE: THIS THREAD IS NOT FOR DISCUSSION OF THE POLICY CHANGES. PLEASE HAVE THOSE DISCUSSIONS WITHIN THE Content, Clarity, and Consent THREAD. THE FOCUS OF THIS THREAD IS TO HELP CREATE TOOLS AND SYSTEMS TO ALLOW USERS TO CURATE AND FILTER THEIR EXPERIENCE TO WHAT THEY WOULD LIKE TO SEE.

Please keep this civil, productive, and constructive!

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Suggestion: Pre-Realm Awakening Consent Pop-up

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Suggestion: Collapsible fields with tags

Additional Context - Post by Kredden
Additional Context - Clarification by Talon

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Suggestion: Two way overlay on profiles

Additional Similar Suggestion - Me about 50ish posts later

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Suggestion: Move players that wake up in Sinder to a Safe Room after policy changes

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Suggestion: Auto-Swap profile

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Suggestion: Color-coded hard-kink tags

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Suggestion: About field updates - Sinder-safe and room only

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I will continue to try and collect more suggestions from the thread and add them as I can. Unfortunately I must step away from my desk at the moment. If you had a system proposal or tool idea, please post it in this thread and let’s get a discussion going on them.

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Suggestion: Separate areas as realms, but make it easy to move between them

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That solution might be more technically complex. Not only with the ability to smoothly move from one to another, but because I don’t believe the system yet supports the ability for separate realms, even though that is an intended feature eventually.

I think you can accomplish much the same effect if the “everyone online” list was replaced with “everyone in the same zone” list. And then I can see who else is in the zone without checking every room, too. I don’t know how easy that would be to implement, but I assume it would be simpler than dividing into realms while having roughly the same outcome.

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I do want to pipe up and say that the global userlist is a strong component of why Wolfery appeals to me over Tapestries. It’s the sole reason I was able to draw some life towards Umber during its more ghost-town days; I’m able to hang out in a quiet area I like the vibe of, scope out folks from across the realm for interesting folks, then reach out to 'em and see if they’re up for stopping by. Rather than needing to plop down in the Park/Plaza to see where the majority of people are.

It’s a handy tool for fighting against the bunching-up problem that Tapestries certainly has, since over there if I go to an abandoned zone I’m almost fully blind to the MUCK outside of already-watched people.

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There was a command to see a list of public zones and how many were there on taps… it’s been a few years but… LF? I think. Anyway, you can also see zone populations in much the same way here too.

But I do get your point. Maybe have it as an option you can toggle between? Or have the full list under the zone list?

An option would be fine, I just strongly would prefer the userlist not be removed. The LC command gives you a number, I’m looking for the About and Tags and whatnot on someone where I could potentially get a hook for inviting them over.

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Realms may not be quite there yet, but it looks like there’s been a lot of progress, something every other update changelog since the realm client release (almost a year and a half ago).

Regarding the userlist… well, I’d rather refer to the thread on policy for that. But in short, being too connected is part of the problem. It might be better if you just saw the character profile for the realm you’re in, though. Or simply names for people on in other realms.

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Realms are very close to happening. I personally feel that if we are at the level where we can’t coexist in a civil fashion with a global user list then realm separation of content might be a better option. As Kasseth says it’s one of our best features and I’d be against removing it.

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Would the online list be cross realm or only the current realm?

I suppose it’s more of a tangent at this point, but I would still like a zone list if in addition to the full online list.

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Realms are basically fully separate instances of Mucklet, only sharing the player-level login. It would not be across realm.

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Spoiler tags for extreme content aside, maybe that is the best answer, then. I would not be opposed to it. I am rather tired of the subject getting debated over and over. I would rather we could all co-exist, but if not then maybe this can be a solution that makes everyone happy. Or at least a good compromise.

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I’m a bit split on the realms approach myself, but that’s just because I worry that it would result in a split user base.

I don’t imagine watched users would persist across realms, would they? If not, then I worry that it’d result in friends being split up as they indulge in different interests.

I don’t imagine that you’d be unable to be on both at the same time, provided that you’re willing to be on both.

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As it is now it’d be separate but doing a separate lookup for watched users with linked accounts might be a good way to help reduce ‘disconnection’ issues. Or what Aoineko said, but it’d be cool if they could be networked with the exit linking instead of having to run entirely separate browser instances. Then it’s more like Mastodon where you can link or not.

This might all be straying away from the overall focus of the thread, though.

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If it is a considered means of implementing policy change, than I think it is valid to the discussion.

You could also always leave a mail to your friends to let them know you’re under the same name or a new name on the other realm.

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If we can have a better defined list of what constitutes ‘extreme’ content, I would love a way to set up profiles and areas with a spoiler overlay. Something like ‘this section contains references to X,Y,Z’ with a consent acknowledgement.

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I too would like to know what counts. Is a character in Umber having a list of current injuries and recovery schedule extrema? It’s not explicit, it isn’t graphic… but the current state is just really vague. And the idea of having something like this that can change from day to day having to be updated across all profiles is just… kind of a nightmare.

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I think asking for clarification on what’s considered extreme for clarification is valid and within scope for regards to the tools as long as we don’t speculate or let it draw into a long side discussion.

One thing I have been wondering in correlation to this is do we need to expand the current stock and custom tag system to allow flags for extreme content as well as an array of categories that tags could fall under?

This would then potentially help with content warnings later on as well.

If there’s going to be a restriction on custom tags about extreme content, it would be helpful if more of them were covered by default tags.

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If you can do that, like, add a little button on a tag that says ‘this one is extreme’, would it be possible to give users an option on their profiles to say, like ‘don’t show me extreme tags’

And have them appear as just blackouts with ‘extreme content’ on them from their POV? That would be another tool for protecting people from seeing stuff that may potentially harm or upset

And would let mods simply ask users to flag an offending tag as extreme instead of having to delete it outright.

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